forever wrote:Let just elaborate more on this.
19.10 Questioner: Over approximately how long a period of time does— was this transfiguration? It must have been very short.
Ra: I am Ra. The assumption is correct, in our terms at least — within a generation and one-half, as you know these things. Those who had been harvested of this planet were able to use the newly created physical complex of chemical elements suitable for third-density lessons.
I do not see Yahweh's intervention on this. However, there were non-reproductive martians already here.
first, the bolded segment clarifies everything - newly harvested 3d entities (from earth) were able to use these newly created physical complexes. which means that all 3d entities - from earth or mars - used these.
one and a half generation is the keyword for something else - ra explains that the change for 3d bodies had been so fast on this planet because of genetic intervention (yahweh's) and gives the same one generation and a half number.
which means that yahweh's intervention happened during creation of 3d bodies.
However:
9.6 Questioner: The people that we now have— the first people, [inaudible] like us— where did they come from? How did they evolve?
Ra: I am Ra. You speak of third-density experience. The first of those to come here were brought from another planet in your solar system called by you the Red Planet, Mars. This planet’s environment became inhospitable to third-density beings. The first entities, therefore, were of this race, as you may call it, manipulated somewhat by those who were guardians at that time.
9.7 Questioner: What race is that, and how did they get from Mars to here?
Ra: I am Ra. The race is a combination of the mind/body/spirit complexes of those of your so-called Red Planet and a careful series of genetical adjustments made by the guardians of that time. These entities arrived, or were preserved, for the experience upon your sphere by a type of birthing which is non-reproductive, but consists of preparing genetic material for the incarnation of the mind/body/spirit complexes of those entities from the Red Planet.
Yahweh manipulation occurs to allow for the inclusion of martians in Earth's sphere. With bodies in a non-reproductive form. Seems to me it is a temporary solution to allow martians m/b/s complexes to (in the future) reincarnate in 3d bodies created in earth
afterwards.
that is not a manipulation - non reproducable bodies were used to bring martians from mars :
These entities arrived, or were preserved, for the experience upon your sphere by a type of birthing which is non-reproductive
Here is where it gets confusing for me:
24.6 ↥ Questioner: Thank you. Then I assume the Confederation stayed away from Earth for a period of time. What condition created the next contact the Confederation made?
Ra: I am Ra. In approximately three six zero zero [3,600] of your years in the past, as you measure time, there was an influx of those of the Orion group, as you call them. Due to the increasing negative influences upon thinking and acting distortions, they were able to begin working with those whose impression from olden times, as you may say, was that they were special and different.
An entity of the Confederation, many, many thousands of your years in the past, the one you may call “Yahweh,” had, by genetic cloning, set up these particular biases among these peoples who had come gradually to dwell in the vicinity of Egypt, as well as in many, many other places, by dispersion after the down-sinking of the land mass Mu.
The transfer of biases by genetic cloning is mentioned here. When these those biases occurred ? When did Yahweh genetically manipulated in here? Does not specifically say 75k ago, although it seems that is the reference. Also, a specific group is mentioned in a specific time.
the bias is not genetic, the bias is a bias which had come to being due to the act of transfer yahweh did, with the genetic cloning.
and that bias is of being 'special', or 'privileged'.
imagine a civilization which destroys itself, and its planet with everyone in it. and then imagine that someone comes and saves this civilization without them having to face the consequences of their actions, going to extreme lengths to create clones to revive a totally died out race, and using these bodies, bring them to another planet's astral environment via space.
these people didnt even come to earth through the NATURAL process of totality thinking a time/space nexus and thus moving the entity to incarnate in that nexus.
they were brought here 'physically'. after all that they did.
spirit is always aware of what is happening around it that it can understand. imagine what impression the martian spirits got, when they went through this experience.
not only they did not suffer the consequences of their actions (exceptionalism), but also a higher entity went through a lot of effort to effect that and haul their asses to another planet. (savior). so they were special. (elitism).
now look at the inroads orion made to middle east/ egypt region circa 1500 BCs - look at the religions which came after that point. from judaism to christianity and islam - all of them have all of these traits.
which, then reflected and replicated in cultures which these propagated - especially angloamerican cultures outside middle east cultures. they are 'exceptional' (rules that apply to everyone doesnt apply to them), they are 'better', they have to 'lead the world' (elitism), and the more hardliner and delusional among them have the expectation of an armageddon and a 'savior'. these are more bluntly pronounced in middle eastern cultures.
orion was able to make inroads to planetary consciousness by using these existing biases, which came to being during the ill-conceived effort of yahweh of 'saving' the martians. with the telephatic messages and 'beliefs' which played on these biases of being 'special', 'to be saved', and 'exception', they were able to induce various religions with those traits.
these people did not face consequences of their actions. and even today, if you look at sci-fi and popular literature, you will see a lot of concepts to the effect of 'mankind colonizing other planets' due to various reasons, one of the common ones being scenarios in which earth becomes inhabitable due to mankind's actions.
the bias is not one of genetic. its a spiritual bias, something which is difficult to overcome.
Is it a possibility that the first martians were situated in Mu ? However, from previous quotes, Yahweh's manipulation was to involve cloning in a non-reproductive form...
it says from among the people who came to dwell in the vicinity of egypt after dispersion of mu.
cannot conclude mu people were from mars. what can be concluded is that there were people who were living in the vicinity of egypt who came from mu.
american indians are also from mu. this alone totally invalidates all the potential hallucinations of being 'special' through genetic manipulation - the traits in between the american indians, south american indians and anyone who lived/lives in the vicinity of egypt are not common at all.
like harvest, this subject is confusing in the material.
this subject is 'confusing' like the harvest, because this is a subject in which people have preferences and biases.
being 'special' and exceptional through racial or religious connections is part of some people's framework of perception. so they are inclined to find 'reasons' to support that. even if evidence shows totally to the contrary. (mu people in middle east, vs mu people in americas).